Ahaa that is what it was. I thought I paid for training in mining but must of missed the npc when I dropped the gold. Silly me........tricks are for kids....
I'll go give this a another test in a few....as of now I'm raising tailoring.... i will repost my finidngs.... But I think I know why I got no ore. I feel
The lumber jacking issue though - at the time I would just hack and hack at a tree. And only get one log or bark every 3 journal's. I swear. And sense skills only gain on failures under 30. I was not getting gains.
Okay 'til later have yourself some fun....
And Thank you Cloud for looking into this matter.